tv The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Comedy Central September 26, 2011 11:00pm-11:30pm PDT
jon stewart. ( cheers and applause ) captioning sponsored by comedy central >> jon: welcome to the daily show. ( cheers and applause ) my name is jon stewart. my guests tonight texas congressman and republican presidential contender ron paul will be joining us. ( applause ) on the show. i'm sorry. i meant rick santorum will be here. i apologize. quite different reactions on that. it's like we have an audience full of teachers of the year. ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: playing hooky from what they're supposed to be doing.
can their be truancy from a teacher of the year conference? "a dog ate my conference schedule." anyway congressman paul, of course, turning in another fine performance last thursday when the republican presidential candidates gathered in florida for the fox news google debate. the 83rd such debate so far this year following of course the previous cnn tea party debate, the reagan library debate, the history channel civil war recreationist debate, the tron debate. the "are you afraid of the dark" debate, and the "don't tell rick santorum we're canceling the debate" debate. by the way, santorum... ( cheers and applause ) yeah. santorum still came in fifth in that debate. things aren't going his way. so what can we possibly learn about the candidates during
their third debate in 15 days? probably nothing. but the audience continues to surprise. >> in 2010 when i was deployed to iraq i had to lie about who i was because i'm a gay soldier. i didn't want to lose my job. my question is, under one of your presidencies, do you intend to circumvent the progress that's been made for gay and lesbian soldiers in the military? >> (audience: (booing). >> jon: yeah, boo. i give the audience credit. it takes a lot of balls to boo a guy who can stick your head in his biceps and crack it like a walnut. look at those things. those aren't bicpeps. if i'm sure if this guy turned into the hulk, his arms would stay the same size. they would just turn green. but of course rick santorum handled this ugly incident beautifully. no, he did not chastise any individuals in the crowd for their disgraceful outbursts,
but on the plus side don't ask don't tell. >> that policy would be reinstituted. as far as people who are in, i would not throw them out because that would be unfair to them because of the policy of this administration. but we would move forward in conformity with what was happening in the past which was sex is not an issue. it should not be an issue. leave it alone. keep it to yourself. whether you're heterosexual or homosexual. >> jon: what planet do you (beep) live on? ( cheers and applause ) honestly. what planet? that sex is not an issue? yes, the army has never mentioned spouses heterosexual or homosexual. we need to go back to an army where soldiers never say anything about that. like this chant: i don't know know but i've been told eskimo
genitalia are mighty cold. the classic aircraft, the memphis pat. and the plane that dropped the atomic bomb, the enola "none of your business." the guy is an idiot. no disrespect. ahead of rick perry, perry had mostly stumbled through the two previous debates yet retained his frontrunner status. would the third time be the charm? >> i think americans just don't know sometimes which mitt romney they're dealing with. is it the mitt romney that was on the side of against the second amendment qualify he was for the second amendment? was it before he was before the social programs from the standpoint of he was for standing up for roe versus wade before he was against roe versus wade? he was for race to the top. he's for obama care and now
he's against it. ( applause ) >> jon: mitt nailed it. can't believe my advisors told me not to get high before this debate. i'm telling you. i'm killing him. holy (beep). if i'm romney, i don't even answer. i just cede my time back to rick perry. "no, no, i cede back to perry. he's doing great. keep going." the third perry debate was even worse than the first two. perry demonstrating an incredible unlearning curve. hey, man, it's early. no harm. no foul. >> rick perry is not prepared for the pressure of the presidential stage. >> you can replace him with a cardboard cut out and not
noticed the difference. >> perry did horrible at this debate. >> rick perry sucked the other night. >> you can read it any of those three ways. perry really did throw up all over himself at the debate at a time when he needed to raise his game. >> jon: everything hume says has gravitas even when he's saying, you know, of course, chris, i've been doing this a long time. really in my estimation the texas governor rick perry really had diarrhea in his own hair. he really looked like he held it up for the crowd in terms of... look, look. look at my poop pants. that was at a time when i thought that the governor really needed to just answer the questions instead of taking a dump in his own pants. perry is not ready for prime time. i guess once again romney is is the frontrunner. >> also once again we're
hearing those calls for chris christie to jump into the race. >> renewed talks that new jersey governor chris christie might very well jump in the race. >> doubts about perry fueling a new push to get chris christie in the race. >> jon: you want to add another candidate? it's like the republican primary is a season of american idol in reverse. where every week we just add some other idiot. all that's missing is the humiliating audition where the contestant mangles one of your favorite songs. ♪ out over the... >> jon: that hurts me. first you guys wanted bachmann and then perry. now kristie. you know what? republican base, meet me at
camera 3. have you ever considered the possibility that maybe your candidates aren't the problem. maybe it's you. you seem hard to please, to figure out. ( cheers and applause ) you're unrealistic. i mean, you're pro-life yet.... >> your state has executed 234 death row inmates, more than any other governor in modern times. ( applause ) >> jon: what was that? you're afraid of death panels yet for uninsured coma patients.... >> are you saying that society should just let him die? >> audience: yes. >> jon: that's the crowd, yeah! you guys support the troops. well except for captain creatine over here. it's like the republican base is at war with its own talking points. i want someone who is going to cut taxes and balance the
budget. someone who is a killed orator but doesn't talk all fancy. the child of poor immigrants who will build a fence to keep them out of this country. someone who's strong enough for a man but ph balanced for a woman. someone who will roll up their sleeves but not show their arms. i feel like if this man came along today the republican response would be, i don't really go for those hollywood types. it's like your ideal candidate is a rare super heavy element that could only exist in a particular particle accelerator. and even then only for a fraction of a second. before you all remembered how much you hate science. you guys need to take a long, hard look in the mirror. you need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and not come away thinking there's something wrong with this mirror. and now you want chris christie. sure you do. >> the folks who criticized my appointments of mohammed are
( cheers and applause ) >> jon: welcome back. my guest tonight, he is a congressman from the great state of texas who is also a republican candidate for president. please welcome back to the program congressman ron paul. ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: nice to see you again. >> thank you very much. >> jon: how are things going? are you feeling the love from the people? >> oh, all the time. especially the media. they really love me. >> jon: what do you think that is? you know, you ran in 2008. you had a nice, strong showing. you've improved upon that. you came in a very close second in the aims straw poll... (one person cheering)... and obviously some of the straws are here tonight. and what is it about your candidacy that they so easily dismiss and are they right
when they say ron paul is not an electable figure? >> they're wrong on that. i've been electeded quite a few times already. i proved i can be elected. i think it's two things. i think one is some people don't want to hear the message because it's a threat to him because i'm a threat to the establishment. some though just flat out don't understand what freedom is all about. that don't understand how the market works. they don't care about monetary policy. they think that we have to continue to fight wars. they don't understand the message. i think that's the main reason why they're intimidated by me having a presence on the stage. >> jon:, you know, you go from 8% to 15% but it's a very enthusiastic group. (one person cheering) (a few more people cheering). >> jon: the enthusiasm for your candidacy is very strong. can you broaden that out. your 15% or 12% or 10% will yell harder than romney's 30%. (a few people yelling.) >> jon: his 30% don't really
seem to like him very much. but how can you expand past that? >> well, keep delivering the message because the message is necessary. it's very popular. the country's in big trouble economically. i have an economic message. the foreign policy is in shambles. perpetual war. american people are sick and tired of it. that message is truly ved spreading. i also work on the assumption that you don't always have to convince immediately 51%. you do need a hard core people who understand the message. those are the people who will volunteer, work hard, donate the money. it's then that the persuasion comes. i think that's where we are. i think once you get to 10%, you have the number. we're 10, 14, 15 percent so i think we're very well could be and most like on the verge of an explosion of interest in this country. (a few people cheering and applauding). >> jon: it seems like what gets a lot of attention is saying one thing a few years ago and then changing your position. have you thought about flip-
flopping because i feel like when i watch the debates a great deal of it is each candidate yelling at the other for things they used to say that they no longer believe in. and during that whole conversation, they really don't look at you. is there a way that you could right now perhaps repudiate some of your past positions? >> if you were my political advisor you would say maybe i should try that and get more attention. >> jon: i would suggest perhaps what you should do right now is come out for a war on iran. i feel like if you were to do that, it would generate a great deal.... >> and where would my supporters be? they would be gone. >> jon: your consistency has been a real problem for the media is what i'm saying. >> that the true. >> jon: here's what i'd like to do for you. i've worked in this business for a long time, congressman. i think i know what i could do for you. i could bring some attention. your look, the consistency of
your positions, have you tried something like this. there you go. you know, they all seem to love chris christie. so i thought maybe if you did something like that. maybe this more than any other look i think might be the way to go. there you go. ( applause ) you know, you've served 12 straight terms in congress. she left being governor early but she's got that bus. have you thought of anything along the lines of that? >> i've been thinking that maybe you'll generate good ideas and i'm not sure i'm going to follow the advice you just gave me. >> jon: here's what we're going to do. we're going to go to commercial. we'll come back and talk about those policies when we come back. we'll get into it a little deeper and figure some of that stuff out.
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responsibility? does their inability to do it effectively make it so that they shouldn't do it? >> in a way especially at the federal level, you know, under our constitution.... >> jon: aren't they a market system? wouldn't you rather have people regulating that are accountable to voters than corporations regulating themselves accountable only to shareholders? isn't our system... ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: yes. i guess you would say as unfair or maybe not as good as it could be at least they're accountable to us. >> but the regulations are stricter in the marketplace. for instance the regulations... the regulators have been very much involved in the housing industry. we have more mortgage companies. they had a big bubble. they made a lot of money because we wanted to make sure everybody had a house. well they go broke. the regulators got bailed out. the people who controlled the regulations. they bail out the big companies.
the middle class lose their jobs and they lose their houses. so all this trust in the government to make sure that big corporations won't hurt them actually is a backfire on them. the regulations are much tougher in the free market because you cannot commit fraud. you cannot steal. you cannot hurt people. and the failure has come that government wouldn't enforce this. in the industrial revolution, there was a collusion. you could pollute. they got away with it. but in a true free market in a libertarian society you can't do that. >> jon: when you say that you're saying a true libertarian society you have to be responsible. has that ever been tried? because i think it's an honest question to say, it sounds like when you say, well, the free market would actually regulate that much better. but i think it's hard for people who know the history of the industrial revolution to feel like that is in any way not a pipe dream.
i don't mean that as.... ( applause ) >> no, it's been tried. it's never been perfect but has socialism and authoritarianism ever been perfect? it's horrible. you lose all your freedoms that way. >> jon: is that our choice? authoritarianism and tyranny or a free market that we must trust? isn't there a ground of kpe dense.... >> i think if you plant a seed it tends to grow. i used to never be able to get away. with telling a woman it's a touch of pregnancy. it doesn't work that way. if you get government involved there tends to be a growth. a little bit of income tax, 1% and then before you have a monster out there. so, no, it grows. when you give up 100% of the principle if you start saying the government ought to do it. under our system since i don't expect a perfect society or a perfect free society. but we had a grand experiment, the best ever and the freeest and the most prosperous.
but one of the rules they had to sort of take care of this blend that you might be looking for is that we have no prohibitions against the state. so if you sort of like this stuff, you know, let bloomberg write all the regulations. let somebody else do it. >> jon: oppression is not okay at the federal level but if your state wants to oppress you... i got it. >> you have more control. you have more control over it if it's local. it's not like saying that you were arguing the case that we have to have a little bit of government to rescue the people that really need it. do it at the local level because let me tell you we're not very efficient in washington. you know, we've run up a debt. >> jon: i've heard about that. >> just think about it, if you have trouble with these things, think about it like the pentagon. do you want to turn it over to the pentagon or the c.i.a. or the t.s.a.? and see how good they are snont you won't worry that the states would develop their own
mechanisms. >> let's hope the people would work on it and make it, you know, due... decent. that was the wonderful part about our country. look how the financial systems in some of the mid western states destroyed their jobs and they moved south because they had more favorable conditions for working conditions and less taxes. so people migrated down. but unfortunately the whole country.... >> jon: now it's a global correction. we have to go down all the way to like china. >> what has happened is that we've undermined our whole environment. our monetary system, our tax system. the regulatory system. so there's no place to go. so they do go overseas. we've chased our jobs overseas. that's strongly related to the monetary system too. when you print money it's a good export. just export our money. as long as they take it, we can buy stuff for free. that's our big problem. >> jon: listen, it's always great to see you. i always enjoy our conversations. you really are one of our last